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Blind calling in pileups

  • 25 Aug 2012 19:49
    Message # 1056447
    Geoff Crowley (Administrator)
    During Lighthouse weekend this year, and being at a lighthouse I had several pileups. Quite a few times I got annoyed at people calling me not knowing who they were calling.
    After exchaging reports and my telling details of the lighthouse, they then asked for my callsign. Not for clarification, they didn't know any of it.

    It seems to me that there must be many who join a pileup and just don't bother listening first to see whats happening. My practice is to give my call every 2-3 QSOs at least, so its not a long listen to get it. It seems like those that get in an auction: They must beat the others! Doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense.

    On several occasions, when asked for my callsign, I responded "Who were you calling?"
    "Please tell me your callsign" they asked again. "But who did you think you were calling?" This is a bit futile I guess, and in a contest wouod be absolutely time wasting. But this isn't a contest, its more like DXpedition working.

    OK, rant over. I'll go and read the DX Code of Conduct again to cool off!
  • 03 Oct 2012 15:32
    Reply # 1092343 on 1056447
    Well thats just poor operating but its becoming more and more common. It used to really bug me but now I just work them quickly, get them out the way and get on with the pile up. 

    Isn't it true that they're normally head and shoulders above everybody else calling you ?
  • 08 Apr 2013 10:24
    Reply # 1262882 on 1056447
    Geoff Crowley (Administrator)

    Lsst week I was listening to VK9CZ, (after working them in the pileup!), and was staggered at the deteriorating standard of behaviour.

    They were working split with a reasonable spread in the split, but many were calling on their freq.

    The usual band police were there, but one of these idiots calling on their TX freq was persistent. IZ6CLZ called and called. The band cops shouted "up, up", then failing to make an impression, they shouted Su, Su (or something similar). After perhaps 5 mins of preventing anyone from hearing the DX, he went away, and made an entry on the cluster, about how they should follow the DX code of conduct, and a 2nd entry "example for real poor DX operation".

    What can be done about this? The DX code of conduct is now widely publicised, and it has confirmed in the minds of the sensible, that we should listen, and be responsible. But it doesn't seem to be getting through to the likes of IZ6CLZ, and about 10 others I noted in the 10 mins I listened. Could this be incorporated into each countries licensing exam syllabus?

    In the Tuvalu presentation at GMDX Convention, Tom GM4FDM mentioned how he'd been called a poor operator on 20m, by someone who failed to appreciate what its like at the DX end.  There must be more we can do to modify this behaviour of those that call the DX not having listened to get any idea of what's happening, who call on top, who tune on DX freq etc?

     

  • 03 Nov 2014 11:40
    Reply # 3139414 on 1056447

    Sitting on "fixed" frequencies the DXpeditions don't have a chance to avoid this.

    For me it's very easy in a  pile-up "with problems" -- I QSY ! ... up or down

    The more skilled ones will find me in a  few seconds ... and on we go !!

    If that QSY doesn't work -- change the mode ...

    The poor DXpeditioners are locked on their QRGs  ? -- why don't they just QSY a bit ??

    cheers from SHETLAND

    Hans

    MM0XAU, MA0XAU, MZ8A

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